Breast Tax: A False Story to Attack Hindus

Several months ago, BBC had published an article based on a pseudo-historical legend. The article states Avarna (low caste women) from Kerala were not allowed to wear upper garments and used to pay ‘breast tax’ to cover their breasts. The article also states that, to protest this, a low caste Avarna woman named Nangeli from Ezhava caste chopped off her breasts and presented it to the tax officials. It was later published in ‘The News Minute’ as well by Supriya Unni Nair, when CBSE removed this section from its social science textbook.

The main person who made this myth popular is an ‘artist’ named T Murali (calls himself as Chithrakaran). He claims that he found this story while going through a local magazine written by a person from Cherthala. However, some searching on the web will show us that this person runs a blog full of crass anti-Hindu propaganda and paintings and full of sexist remarks which ironically many ‘progressive’ anti-Hindu liberals and feminists claim to be the way of upper caste Hindus who suppressed others. For example, he insulted Sarasvati Devi in the most disgusting manner in one of his blogs in Malayalam.

Here is his blogpost from 2009 reflecting his sick perverted mentality – http://chithrakarans.blogspot.in/2009/01/blog-post_09.html?m=1

He says –

സമൂഹത്തിലെഭക്തിഭ്രാന്ത്കൂടിവരുന്നസാഹചര്യത്തില്സരസ്വതിയുടെമുലകളുടെമുഴുപ്പ്, സരസ്വതിഉപയോഗിക്കുന്നസാരി, ബ്രായുടെബ്രാന്ഡ്തനെയിം, പാന്റീസ്, തുടങ്ങിയവസ്തുതകളെക്കുറിച്ച്ചിന്തിക്കുന്നത്പ്രസക്തമാണെന്ന്ബോധോദയമുണ്ടായിരിക്കുന്നു.”

Translation:

“Since devotion to Gods (bhakti) is becoming popular (he calls it as ‘madness’) in the society, thought that it is relevant to think about the breast size of Sarasvati, the brand name of bra and panties which she uses etc

Another statement from the blog by the ‘artist’ T Murali (Chithrakaran) :

ബ്രാഹ്മണന്റെമഹാവിഷ്ണുഎന്നകുണ്ടന്ദൈവത്തിന്(മോഹിനിയാട്ടക്കാരി/രന്)എത്രലിംഗമുണ്ടെന്നും,എത്രയോനിയുണ്ടെന്നുംചിത്രകാരന്സന്ദേഹിച്ചുകൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നസത്യംകൂടിവെളിപ്പെടുത്തട്ടെ

Translation:

“Let me also reveal that Chitrakaran (addressing himself) has been thinking about how many penises and vaginas the gay God Vishnu of Brahmins has.”

Blogger Profile of T Murali (alias Chithrakaran), an Adarsh Liberal who spends his free time thinking about breast size and bra/panty brand of Sarasvati Devi, and penises and vaginas of ‘Gay’ Bhagwan Vishnu

His venomous anti-Hindu hate and perverted mind is visible from the statements from his blog. Does this show that the ultra-liberal social activists accusing Hindu society of oppressing people with sexist remarks are actually projecting their own sick minds on others – “If we wallow in the gutter, so must the world!”

If this pervert had written in a similar vein about the icons of the Abrahamic faiths – Islam and Christianity, he would have been dead or in hiding by now. Still, liberals claim that it is the Hindus who are intolerant!

Anyway, we shall now refute his claim of Nangeli chopping off her breasts. First of all, how could a woman endure the pain after cutting off her breasts and then go and present her breasts to the tax inspector? If at all we consider her to be a brave woman like many other women this country has produced, there are also zero historical documents supporting this myth, apart from local fable. But as seen earlier in our article about Cheraman Perumal, local fables without any facts or documents for support cannot be accepted as historical evidence as it takes only a small amount of time for what is just a story to become a historical fact.

Another fact is that in reality all women of Kerala never really covered their breasts until early 20th century (except for few royals and other aristocrats who had access to luxurious dress)

Dutch representative William Van Nieuhoff in 17th century writes about the attire of Ashwathi Thirunal Umayamma Rani, then queen of Travancore:

“… I was introduced into her majesty’s presence. She had a guard of above 700 Nair soldiers about her, all clad after the Malabar fashion; the Queens attire being no more than a piece of callicoe wrapt around her middle, the upper part of her body appearing for the most part naked, with a piece of callicoe hanging carelessly round her shoulders.”

Dutchman William Van Nieuhoff meeting queen of Travancore in 17th century; Image Source

The above image is the 17th century painting of Nieuhoff introducing himself in front of Umayamma Rani. We can see her being topless along with her topless women attendants. Even the men of Kerala never wore any upper garment just like the soldiers of the queen seen in the image.

Kerala had a good tropical climate, and there was no need of covering oneself with so many garments. Traditional attire of old Kerala men were mundu or lungi alone, without any shirts. Similar case existed in other regions like Bali and Sri Lanka which had similar climate and people had less clothings including women. Balinese women went topless until few decades ago. It was only after the Islamic invasions and introduction of Victorian morals (morals of the west) that “covering the body more” argument came into being.

The article published in The Newsminute also says, “In 1813, the Travancore court Dewan Colonel John Munro threw them a carrot and issued an order saying Nadar women who converted to Christianity could cover their chests with an “upper cloth”. The royal court opposed this and the women were only allowed to wear a long blouse that the Muslims and Syrian Christians of the time wore.” But in reality, the church with the British support had all the authority of opposing the orders of the Travancore Raja as seen from the documents of Swathi Thirunal’s period, which also claims that the early demise of Swathi Thirunal was because of the pressure he had to face for which one of the reasons was the intervention of the British in his administration and cultural issues. So this shows that the western judges had passed a judgment according to their morals which was opposed by the administration of Travancore as it was not their tradition and not a caste issue as stated by these liberals.

Even after reading all this, if anyone wants to argue that upper caste Hindus forbade lower caste women from wearing upper garments then here are few images of topless upper caste Nambuthiri Brahmin and Nair women.

Topless Nambuthiri Brahmin lady from a Malayalam  book by Kanippayyur Shankaran Namboodiripad

A Nair woman from Malabar (Kerala) by Klein & Pearl Studio, Madras, early 20th century.
Painting ‘Malabar Beauty’ by Raja Ravi Varma (she wears no upper garment, but covering with a cloth just as model) dated to 19th century.
Painting of the 19th century Junior Queen of Travancore Bharani Thirunal Rani Parvathi Bayi by Raja Ravi Varma, she’s again covering her breasts with a mere cloth without any garments

Nair girls in a temple procession, from the book ‘The Cochin Tribes and Castes’ by L. K. Anantha Krishna Iyer

On the other hand there were many rich Avarnas who had access to upper garments, contradicting the claim of these liberal activists. This can be seen in the images given below:

Ezhava family from an early 20th century book titled ‘Glimpses of Travancore’  by N. K.  Venkateswaran
Ezhava girls, from the book by L. K. Anantha Krishna Iyer

So the divide was between rich and poor and not between upper castes and lower castes like the anti-Hindu brigade claims. Even after covering bosoms became popular, it was only worn by certain rich people who had access to all the luxury, regardless of caste, and those who preferred it.

Thus this shows that liberals with perverted mind like T Murali who are nothing but rabid Hinduphobes and sepoys have been creating stories of their own in the past few decades, and are also obtaining help from Western international media like BBC who support their stories without proper research, in order to demonize Hindus and continue the colonial tradition of ‘atrocity literature’ to shame the Hindus.

This article has been written jointly by @dauhshanti & @paanchajanyaa

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  • JRK

    Thank you so much dear friends for bringing out the truth. Atrocity literature make normal people like me helpless and maybe our whole society demoralized. This is such a service for our dignity. Thank you very much.

    • Preeti Mankotia

      Keep reading Rajiv Malhotra…jai hind

  • RJ

    Thanks for this. I too did some search and couldn’t find any original sources apart from some random news articles, blogs and novels backing this story. I wrote answers to few related questions raising doubts over this story and cited your article

    • priya

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channar_revolt you may get idea about this custom from here./ It was not just due to climate.

      • Praveen Pillai

        All the sources mentioned in the wiki article are of foreign origin and none of them predate 1996. Obviously a rehash of missionary propaganda from Travancore .

      • bhavani gowda

        Its unfortunate still you believe in wiki, but u will not be able to produce documents from our own land? in wikipeadia even i can write something good/bad about priya as well, does that mean its not editable? but whatever author produced here is a written doc mam, try to distinguish them,

        • priya

          Who wrote it? Any idea how many times it may be edited to suit the rulers and other powerful people’s interests?
          For example where is the role of south indians in Ramayana? There is mentions of only vanaras and rakshasas in Ramayana about people of south. Do you think we were monkies and through evolution now become south indian human?:)
          So stop believing the written documents of ancestors fully and use commonsense too. And I trust present day documents as everyone get chances, irrespective of caste and race to say their version too

  • Chandran

    It is like money laundering you create shell companies open accounts transfer money close account across tax havens until you lose track of the origin. The leftists create stories then some ‘respectable’ media takes it up, spread the word around, until Hindus themselves keep quite thinking it is all true. Spread maximum lies through media and ultimately destroy Hindus.

  • Humanbeing

    What about Channar Revolt? That facts about that are fabricated too?

    • Adikeshava Dasa

      yes… the judgement stated in this article was the starting point of that revolt.. it started when missionaries supplied upper garments to converted xtians which was then a luxury spreading uneasiness in the society making people think abt it as a way of getting rich which made the travancore kings object it… it was started by the cunning activities of missionaries not due to the caste issues as stated by the liberals and nadars were actually land owners and not lower class people as projected by the liberals

      • Adikeshava Dasa

        for more clarification travancore kings objected the free supply of undergarments by missionaries to xtians and not the wearing of upper garments

        • Adikeshava Dasa

          *uppergarments.. sry for the autocorrect option

  • Akshaya Kumar Patra

    The Evangelist bastards paint hindu gods n goddesses in vulgar manner like the pervert Mullah Hussain .Hindus should teach them right lesson

  • Preeti Mankotia

    Good piece…bring out more such..please

  • priya

    Due to good climate not wearing extra dress to cover breast was okay. But just think in aIndian cultural scenario ? AS per Law Women were NOT ALLOWED to wear upper dress and if somebody wear it they were to pay Tax !!!!! Is that Okay? Brahmin women were wearing a cloth over their breast whenever they are going out of house. Infact nair caste is not actually upper caste. But they also in Sudra class. But they were the assistants to namboodiri / brahmin caste and kings that time and enjoyed much privileges. Very rich nair & ezhavas (both are high in caste hierarchy that time among sudra) also enjoyed this privilege. General nair women also Not Allowed to wear upper dress !!!
    Story of Nangeli can be myth. But similar cases happend in kerala that time. like a low caste women who wore blouse was threatened by saying it was against custom and segregation between upper caste & lower caste will not be possible. (which means caste system is the main reason behind this custom) Protest against this custom was all over the state and Channar Revolt was a result (ref wiki : Channar_revolt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channar_revolt )
    What Chithrakaran said may be rude. But what is behind his words were true once in our state.
    We keralites went much ahead from that type of bad customs through education and social reforms.We utilized good English education offered by Christan missionaries. (Even this article is in English 🙂
    But history is history. We cant forget it. We keralite women were not allowed to dress as per our wish once. I think reformation of kerala is a very good model for many part of india where un-touchability based on caste still exists.

    • Adikeshava Dasa

      Did u even read the article, comments and go through the pictures? If the accused classes of nairs and namboothiris didnt wear upper garment where is the lower class compulsion u r speaking abt? It takes time to come out of the attack u people faced through this article.. Dont wry

      • Paanchajanya

        Guys, Channar revolt happened there is no doubt abt it.. but it was for the poll tax the channars (lower class of nadars) had to pay irrespective of their genders… for male it was talakkaram(head tax) and for female it was mulakkaram(breast tax)… it had nothing to do with covering of breasts but it was just a tax levied on lower castes which was abolished after protest by Ayya Vaikundar who channars worship as an incarnation of Vishnu… This today has been completely twisted and written as nonsense with the imaginary story of nangeli calling it as a tax for covering the breast

        • priya

          Do you think all hindu puranam are real stories? Did u heared about kannaki? It was also a myth.
          Btb Even if nangeli character is mith, still the custom was existed for sure. In history also a channar lady who wear blouse was threatened. So it is a fact that such an idiotic custom which prevent lower caste ladies from covering the breast was existed. so what is the point in denying only a story?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            sry to say lady.. this shows ur awareness abt history.. kannagi unlike ur nangeli is documented very well in history so u can stop spreading ur lies as we can see u r pretty much threatened over this attack on ur dear liberals

          • priya

            Kannaki is the character of chilapathikaram. And it was based on a pre existing folklore. Documented in a form of a story or poem doesn’t make anything as a proof for history. FYI.
            And I never said nangeli is history. But such type events happened in our kerala once and we keralites overcome it through education, liberal mindset and social reforms. Instead of promoting caste like such madness as our culture like many hindu leaders doing now, we get rid of it many years before. So don’t underestimate our liberals 🙂

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            just a small correction.. say u dont know anything abt kannaki other than silapathikaaram

      • priya

        Did u read my comments. I said due to lack of much cloths and climate people wear one single cloth in waist . And namboothiri women still wrap a cloth oveR their breast. Nair is actually lower caste sudra and they also not allowed to cover breast. So such an idiotic custom WAS there in kerala. But we came out of that not from any north indian hindu movement but through our own social reformers. So I am proud about it.

    • Praveen Pillai

      “We keralite women were not allowed to dress as per our wish once.” Are the Keralite women in Malappuram allowed to dress as they please, now? Are they not wrapped in a black tent before being taken out of their houses? The Lib/Left useful idiots of missionaries don’t w talk about that.

      • priya

        Why still in padmanabha temple thiruvanathapuram ladies ate not allowed to wear churidar? I malappuram ladies are compelled to wear whole body dresses and in travancore ladies were and are compelled to remove dress. As a woman i don’t find any goodness in latter so stop comparing it.
        missionaries helped kerala a lot to come out of the old mad caste system and untouchability where swami vivekananda himself called kerala once as mental asylum. Instead in many hindu leaders are promoting caste. I am happy that we never hear any news from kerala like killing a dalit for entering temple and all. Thanks to sreenarayana guru, ayyankali and missionaries & communists and many many social reformers.

        • Adikeshava Dasa

          http://www.hindupost.in/society-culture/channar-revolt-another-story-mistold-liberals/ here is the authors answer for ur famous channar revolt… now u can stay in peace for that has also been exposed

        • Adikeshava Dasa

          as said in the article u r more a sexist of “covering the body more” type rather than speaking abt womens rights…. in trivandrum people are asked to wear traditional dress like sarees and mundus… i guess for u wearing sarees means removing ur dresses? do u even know that churidhar is persian and not our traditional dress? get a life girl for u r already exposed and unlike previous decades whining wont help

          • priya

            I myself stopped in guruvayur temple once for wearing churidar, and when I went without that pajama part and i was allowed.( Later guruvayur removed that restriction, but still padmanabha temple follows) So where is the mundu saree…
            And if we follow culture kerala women has to go topless !!!! Just imagine that 😀
            This post itself is about such culture of kerala once and how missionaries changed it. The author said topless was due to climate and still kerala is a cool climate area. So do you think we still have to go in our Traditional dress to temples?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            hahaha i cant reply ur fantasy stories of going bottomless.. i am from guruvayur and from time immemorial churidhars gotta hav a dhoti over it(still followed at trivandrum) thats it so if u r hiding the dhoti part better luck to u… kerala is a cool climate? u r not only weak in history but in geography as well

          • priya

            Oh if you are from guruvayur you may be well aware of it. 🙂 then ask some girl to go with a anarkali modal churidar top alone wit out pajama. no one compel her to wear a dhoti or saree over it 🙂 I am guarantee for that.
            And as you said you are from kerala, then you are well aware of our past time culture of low caste women including nair, not allowed to cover the breasts. and how we get rid of it.
            (I am happy that i born later only 🙂
            So now what are you denying in this article? Do you think women were not allowed to cover their breast was merely a culture and not due to caste system?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            well i can see u coming back to the same point in circles as u hav run out of steam.. all ur questions hav already been answered… u might hav loads of time whining that ur libtardic views are getting hit but no so for me… i know its hard for u to accept that all ur lies are done… get well soon

          • priya

            ohh where was those answers. I cant saw any here. I think you are having some hallucinations.
            As a keralite i cant deny these custom was in our state. (And i Am sure you also can’t even though you never admitted)
            And as a keralite i know we already went ahead from this. But that was not through to any so called hindu leaders of India but due to education, social reformers of kerala and communism too. Not only this,we eradicated many such insane laws and customs.
            Now Kerala is really a god’s own place in India. But history is history. knowing the history will make you more proud of your state and will keep you away from repeating it.

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            for channar i gave u another article of the same author, for guruvayur i said it was always dhoti and for ur communism missionary thing the same another article exposes u further.. kannagi i said its more than silapathigaaram.. history of urs i said its a lie and u hav not gone further at all exposing ur inability to grasp things.. cant say if u dont let things go to ur head and keep whining… kerala was gods own country until devils took over with the support of people like u who are just pathetic in their lies and intelligence

          • priya

            this article itself is a crap. It doesn’t consider the actual facts of kerala history. We all are well aware about the history where low caste women where restricted from covering the breast not for climate reason , but for descrimination. So reading more crap from the same doesn’t make any sense.
            kannaki was a folklore myth. chilapathikaram is a poem based on it. nothing more.
            kerala is not in the hands of devils till now. (except one seat in last election ) and hope kerala will never took over by those devils who spread hatred.

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            yaya.. everything except ur words and knowledge are crap for u r the one who know all the facts and wrote all the pieces of history… meanwhile if u dont know abt kannagi y speak of it? do u even know the pandyan king who was there during her time? and there is a document of his life history saying abt kannagi, then there is maduraikanchi and an inscription at meenakshi temple? can u show any such things for ur celebrated nangeli? get a life gal u r done for u cant say anything else…

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            and ya tell me one more thing? are u really worried abt the rights of women covering their breasts? coz ur self claimed act of going bottomless say otherwise? if u dont mind going bottomless in public then y do u mind going topless and covering the body more? stop lying abt guruvayur for these all things show u r a pathetic liar and guruvayur will never allow a women bottomless or with pyjama its always a dhoti with kurta or saree or mundu

          • priya

            This article and I was saying about the restriction of breast covering for low caste women. Do you accept such a custom was in our state or not?
            “Story of Nangeli can be myth. But similar cases happend in kerala that time. like a low caste women who wore blouse was threatened by saying it was against custom and segregation between upper caste & lower caste will not be possible.” is the part of my comment for which you are replying for last two days.
            And do u think bottomless chridar is naked? an anarkali type churidar top is a good frock and for a girl it was good enough. SO STOP UR ADVICE.

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            well well i didnt say u were bottomless u claimed it saying pyjama in churidhar was not allowed so i went without pyjama and i was allowed now its a frock wow… earlier u said kannagi also was not documented like nangeli now u agree it was a myth… so y r u getting offended when i say ur own statements? coming back to the claim i wil never ever agree that the threatening happened for it was never a custom in kerala… the projection of upper garment as a sign of dignity came aft the arrival of ur frnds calle brits… if u r not aware of the history written by other other than marxists who wrote lies then u dont hav any place here for u know nothing abt the real history…

            PS: Think before ur self claimed statements hereafter… a read above saying malappuram allows women to cover their bodies but u went without pyjamas in guruvayur really means u went bottomless

          • priya

            NOT NOW. IT WAS MY FIRST COMMENT. scroll up and read.
            and Kannaki also not actual history. Can a curse burn a city? i am saying again it is myth.
            You are ignoring the fact about low caste breast cover issue. You simplifying that restriction to cover up your propaganda.
            I am sure it is waste of time trying to convince you. It is impossible to wake someone who is acting as slept. So keep on going with your false statements.
            But dont forget kerala’s history is past., means we get rid of it.But some are using it to spread hatred. if you participate with them our state will have to pay for it.

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            haha can now see it… just because u dont believe in the value of chastity doesnt mean it never happened for it is well documented in history unlike ur dear nangeli… and even in case of channar revolt which u speak was the movement of social reform for kerala… stop speaking it as a pride of malayali for it was done by a tamil channar from kanyakmuari named ayya vaikuntar… so it never happened and stop embarassing our society by saying malayalis had it but no one in the malayali society had the spine to raise his voice against it

          • priya

            And dont you know kanyakumari was a part of travancore that time? 🙂

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            Even today trivandrum has 350 tamil families living around the temple.. just coz they are in trivandrum doesnt make them malayalis…. pathethic

          • priya

            what about palakkad? are they keralites or tamalians ?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            for ur knowledge palakkad would hav gone to tamil nadu instead of kanyakumari had it not been for EMS’ role.. he got it for kerala as he belonged to that region to reinforce his vote banks.. so stop ur bull shit.. anyone who has tamil roots and tamil as mother tongue can become a keralite but not a malayali just because u claim them to be.. hindus and india hav that unity in diversity without making everyone uniform like ur monotheistic friends

          • priya

            If kanyakumari was part of travancore that time and the protest was in kanyakumari, and now kanyakumari no more part of kerala does it mean that protest was not in travancore ? Total confused 🙂
            Hey man such custom was existed in kerala once and eradicated later. That’s the core point.

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            so u agree that we malayalis didnt even have the spine to revolt at something unjust? it had to be the minority community who got us out of our misery and we were silent? for no malayali community took part in channar revolt… stop ur nonsense

          • priya

            Are they keralites?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            even with that u wouldnt be allowed without a dhoti… remind that u r speaking to a person born and brought up in guruvayur… i know the rules very well than a mere visitor so stop lying like any other liberal left historian

          • Statesman

            What @ other parts of India where you missionaries are not present TO CHANGE THE SOCIETY? Do that CHANGED just BECAUSE MISSIONARIES CHANGED KERALA??

          • priya

            Education given for all people irrespective of caste was the main reason for development of social reformers. Before education was limited to upper caste and high class people only.
            Kerala actually utilized the education facilities offered.

          • Statesman

            So that means EDUCATION is the REASON FOR CHANGE.. NOT MISSIONARIES AS PROCLAIMED BY YOU..

          • priya

            missionaries offered Education for all p irrespective of caste.NOt our hindu institutions.

          • Statesman

            They WANTED CLERKS of WORKS FOR THEIR FACILITY. HENCE THEY EDUCATED US.. BUT ITS WE WHO took it POSITIVELY AND CHANGED OURSELVES.. NOT BECAUSE OF MISSIONARIES AS YOU BELIEVE.. YOU MIGHT be FAMILIAR WITH THE NAKEDNESS OF Xians WORLD OVER FORGET KERALA..

          • priya

            Yes . Exactly. That’s my point. But think why all those were illiterate? Why hinduism restricted lower caste kids from educational institutions. Why dalit was not given a chance to learn before christian missionaries? Whom you will blame?
            Whatever their intention is , how much they exploited us, still they educated us and those who utilized benefited later even for the struggle to get for their rights. Now as a union how much we gone forward in educating rural indians? Recently also a news came as kids of uppercaste denied to eat lunch prepared by a dalit cook. Whom we will blame now? Christians? Mugals? Our our caste system which is prevailing now also?
            Kerala was a small area and we benefited from education we received is a plus thing for us keralites. That’s the milestone of all our social reforms

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            stop blabbering…. just because u dont know abt our educational system doesnt mean these things didnt happen… india had the highest literacy rate in the world till the british arrival.. everyone were given equal education in schools except for vedas (which only was restricted to brahmins).. read dharampals “beautiful tree” or gandhis speech abt literacy.. and for gods sake stop blabbering and embarassing malayalis for kerala is the only state to give free education to everyone including dalits even during dailts time… ex kotunallur gurukulam of cochin and schools opened by travancore maharajas

          • Statesman

            Absolutely TRUE!

          • priya

            You are the one blabbering now. If lower caste people were not allowed to walk in the road do you think they taught them ?
            Even for the breast cover madras residency passed a law for allowing all women for covering their breast irrespective of their caste and travancore king was compelled to accept it.

          • Statesman

            Well! If you wish to be living in HISTORY even though you are in PRESENT (((TENSE, OR THAT TOO YOU MAY OBJECT))) GOD ((( MAY BE LORD BUDDHA, YOU READ))) ONLY SAVE YOU..

          • priya

            No . My country and it’s democracy will save me. Jai india

          • Statesman

            Well ! NOW THAT GIVES ME THE CORE OF YOU! YOU ARE A HINDu HATER BY HEART.. YOU PROVED IT.. Will be NONSENSE COMMENTING WITH YOU.. YOU EVEN CAN’t PRONOUNCE NATIONAL SALUTATION.. JUST like the FEMINISTs having objections being treated as woMAN as it has MAN in it.. PITY!!

          • priya

            Am indian and I like to say jai to my country. So I said jai india. What’s your problem

          • Statesman

            NO! Thats NOT ACCEPTED SALUTATION to INDIA.. It doesn’t Adrenalin blood as Jai HIND! Adrenalins..

          • priya

            Who accepted ? Is our constitution says so?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            cant speak to a lady who just didnt read the facts given above as she thinks they are false without cross checking or providing facts for it but simply coming back in circles seems like u r getting ready to create some other story abt kerala… heard abt shameless liberals going naked screaming its unacceptable during trumps victory without knowing wat can be done or a proper way to oppose it… seeing how shameless they really are now to lie abt guruvayur temple without caring abt their own dignity

          • priya

            You lie about history and still you call me lier?

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            well u couldnt even give me one record for ur claims.. whereas i hav given various proves my claim and ur lie abt u going with frock or whatever bottomless in our guruvayurappans sannidhanam is enough for that lady… sry to say u r caught red handed

          • priya

            I was in 9th standard that time. Will it make anu sense? 🙂

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            well then that makes all ur comments above nonsense 😛

          • priya

            Stopping a 14 year old girl at temple gopuram at 4 am morning just because she was wearing a common dress of whole country make any sense to you. That’s what happened to me at guruvayur. And that’s happening to many still. We wear a respectful dress but kerala follows is shame to us.

          • Statesman

            SORRY ! CAN’T BUY YOUR BLAME GAME as its HISTORY NOW! We are refined society WHERE LOWER CASTEs ARE GIVEN SO MUCH PREFERENCE, THAT EVEN HIGHER CASTES FROM ALL OVER INDIA STARTED AGITATION TO ADD THEM TO LOWER CASTEs CATEGORY.. ((( SAME THING I MEAN DISCRIMINATION ))) THERE MAY BE SOME INSTANCES AS PROCLAIMED BY YOU of DENIAL by UPPER CASTEs THOSE ARE PURELY MALICIOUS PROPAGANDAs.. NOTHING ELSE.. IF ANYONE IS BLAMED ITS THE CENTRAL GOVTs RULED EARLIER.. YOU MIGHT BE ENLIGHTENED TO KNOW THEY ARE CONGRESS GOVTs.. NONE ELSE

          • priya

            Do you think closing ur eyes will make all the world in darkness ?
            Discrimination in a reality in india . Now also. But it was promoted by hindutwa group only. Congress failed to eradicate it fully is a truth. But reformations has to be come from religion itself. Instead I saw many hindutwa leaders justifying it now also.

          • Statesman

            NOOOO.. Congress isn’t failed to eradicate it FULLY BUT THEY ONLY MADE IT TO STAY FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING TO RULE ME, YOU, HINDUs, MUSLIMs, CHRISTIANS, BUDDHISTs and WHOEVER IS RESIDING HERE.. FALSE PROPAGANDAs ARE ITS CORE.. AROUND WHICH those living in HISTORY like you FEELS BETTER TO BE.. ABOVE DENIAL and the article we are commenting on ARE PART OF..

          • priya

            Those who believe religion is glorious is those actually living in past. And those who believe democracy os the religion is in present. And we learnes history to avoid mistakes again.

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            ya thats y kerala is going back in literacy for the past 10 yrs… u r absolutely right.. now dont say u didnt read the 2011 kerala census report as well

          • Statesman

            The significance of the article is in prohibiting portraying HINDUs in BAD LIGHT in TODAY’s PERIOD.. You SEEMS to be LISTENING in DETOURED and WHIMSICAL WAYS ALWAYS..

          • priya

            History is always history. We cant deny it, Hindu who follows caste system is always in bad light. whitewashing it without correcting it is not possible.

            Thats why i said history of Kerala is a real role modal to follow in other part of many india where caste system is still prevailing.

          • Statesman

            NOBODY is DENYING WHATs WRONG.. WHAT IS CLAIMED is ON SURE PURPOSE OF SHOWING HINDUS in BAD LIGHT AND SUGGESTING MISSIONARIES ARE ALWAYS BETTER, WHICH AS SWAMI VIVEKANANDA STATED, YOU ARE ONE OF BELIEVING AS TRUE..

          • priya

            Do you know there was a time in kerala, when Swami vivekanada himself said we are a mental asylum. Now we, kerala, changed a lot. Currently there is no news reported as caste discrimination from kerala. how?

          • Statesman

            THATs WHAT I said in my earlier comment, YOU ARE ONE OF.. AND
            THE HISTORY IS ALSO THAT YOUR MOST BELOVED MISSIONARYs were ALSO HAVING LOTS OF FLAWS in OLD ERA..

          • priya

            Yes, for sure. There intention was to convert to christianity and create assistants . But such education to all irrespective of caste helped us lot.
            So do you think that education yo untouchables will be denied while uppercaste people and king are not providing it that time for all citizen. Can we ignore it ?

          • Statesman

            Well! You are diverting from the real POST and ITS AIM.. I DONT BUY the THEORY OF DISCRIMINATIONs.. By anyone.. I treat it as offence.. BUT IT IS TOO SAD WHEN YOUR OWN SISTER IN IGNORANCE OR HALF KNOWLEDGE SHAKES HANDS (AND WHAT ELSE I DON’T KNOW) in MALIGNING our own GLORIOUS religion RATHER THAN SLAPPING THEM IN THE FACE..

          • priya

            Glorious religion? How you will describe the caste system and discrimination based on that? How you will justify school kids rejecting the food cooked by the school cook simply becoz she is dalit?? How you will reason those killed just because they enter temple.
            You should read annihilation of caste by baba ambedkar to know how glorious was our religion once.j
            Okay my point is kerala went ahead a much from such pathetic conditions. It is not due to the power of hinduism but with education. Am proud about it. But it doesn’t mean that I will hide all past and pretend we were like this before. We were not. That’s what’s history reminds us

          • Adikeshava Dasa

            as if there r no castes among monotheists.. keep calm girl… can see u r really scred abt ur liberalism and missionary friends getting exposed… and ur whining abt guruvayur bottomless really shows that u really dont wry abt caste system or discrimination to improve in hindu society

          • priya

            What is there to be exposed? They also doing the same as you people are doing. Just come to my side and you will understand there is no difference between any religion.
            And about caste system i am not worrying as I know we keralites grown up much from that. And more changes will come as times passes.
            Btb there is a controversial theory exists about hindu temples and Dravidian worships. Are you interested mr. aadikesavan

          • Statesman

            Well! We are!! But NOT FROM A FAG MOUTH BUDDHISTs OR CHRISTIANs LIKE YOU..

          • Statesman

            HINDUISM WAS/ IS & WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST of ALL RELIGION.. WHATEVER MAY have BABA AMBEDKAR SAID..

          • priya

            Believers of all religion says the same 🙂 aren’t they?

          • Statesman

            Only in my earlier comment I have explained its a false propaganda to achieve political aims.. Look NO SOCIETY is 100 INCORRUPTIBLE.. Flaws are there in EVERY society.. You too have them.. There is NONE killed for entering temple.. Those who wish to enter have certain rules. Everyone can enter.. There is NO RESTRICTION of ANY KIND TO ANY HINDU to ENTER HINDU TEMPLE.. If YOU WANT TO BREAK RULES, SORRY, YOU CAN”T BE ENTERTAINED.. Still APART HINDUISM is GREATEST OF ALL, of WHICH I M PROUD OF.. WELL YOU SEEMS TO BE A CONVERTED ONE. IF SO LEMME REMIND YOU JUST GET LOST.. YES JUST GET LOST I AM REPEATING.. CAUSE THE DIRTS LIKE YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS AT ALL WHAT WE HINDUS DO.. OKAY.. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS OF YOUR OWN CONVERTED RELIGION..

  • Humble

    This news aims the non keralite people who probably won’t came to the truth of kerala history. This is an utter daniel of truth and history that we learned in schools n colleges evolved as an outcome of methodological research. One has the liberty to be in it or make a serch through reliable and authentic documented history.

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